Different seeders

[ciboire237]

Sirians

Pleiadians

Nordics

Zeta reticulans

Reptilians

The Sirians have not seeded the earth but have liked to. The Pleiadians are young. Zeta Reticulans are older. The oldest I know is the Nordics which I believe are from Venus.

There is the Nibiruans who are 3D giants from a 12th planet in our solar system. Let's say that after Pluto there is 3 more planets, the last one being Nibiru. She have an orbit of 3600 years, destroying the earth each time she passes by. This happened in the time of Moses. The worst time was 12,000 years ago with the last "Atlantis" fall. Many continent have risen and felt over the periodic passage of Nibiru.

The giants have laser guns, rockets, nuclear bombs and thinker with genetics. The humans have reached a quotient of technology the last 100 years much like the giants mastered hundreds of thousands of years ago. The giants, called Nephilim and Bnei haElohim, Rephaim, Anakim in the bible enslaved mankind some millenias ago with cristals and technology. They put themselves as gods, having inspired the romans and such. The mayan have sacrificied to these gods in particular. After they left the mayan became aborigen again.

On Nibiru there is also in 4D Reptilians. They have the form of a chinese dragon, a long snake with 4 arms. They do not have wings. They are Service-to-Self. This mean their ego focus on 95% on themselves and 5% to others. They are non-telepathic.

On the planet earth are humans in 3D. There is also on the surface another 3D humanoid being, the Yeti. Deep inside the earth crust there are subterrean species. One of the is the Men in Black. They are in 3D, physical and have mastered chemical electricity. There is also an older species than mankind, having been seeded during the era of dinosaurs. They look like chinese dragon but are less intelligent than humans. They have tools and can create maps. Like the Ural map found in Russia. 90 millions years old.

There are many beings originating from Orion. Some of them of the Service-to-Self orientation have contacted the US governement in the 1950 and tried to convert them. They gave them false hopes of a technology.

The Nordics are Jesus man. They are very high energy beings, focused on the best of mankind. To work with them you must be pure and give yourself to others. There are many problems on earth. Service-to-Others is 50% 50% and they are telepathic, empathic to others. They can read thoughts and feel feelings. They are in telepathy with plants, animals and humans. I believe the Nordics are 7D beings and higher.

[kaketsh]

There is something I must ask. How do you see these dimensions ?

In the abstract world of mathematics there number of dimensions may be billions or infinite, also with minus dimensions, but in what I call "dimensions" there may be only 7. The Grand Division and the sub types. So why not infinite ? Ok, lemme xplain.

The way I understand this phenomena is the similar to splitting the birthday cake. You can cut it into 2 pieces and it will be still equal the whole, just like dividing the cake into 999999999 parts. Still one. The whole cake. The reason lies above arithmetics.

This is also connected to menorah symbolism and chakra system and it goes like this:

1st dimension, the abstract: mathematical arithmetics (natural numbers, constants), superstrings in physics, quarks (most possible), as transparticles bonding this level to 7th dimension, transparticles are something like corpuscular-wave in behavior (math. variables - one that is many (all)), the light, metaphorically the electrical energy for the computer

1,2 trans D: an axis --|-|-|-|-|-|-|-->, cloning... but eye desynchronization would be 2,1 trans D or even 3,2,1 t D

2nd dimension: mathematical variables xy in the coordinate system, surface, projections of 3d mind (drawings), maps, something that may exist vividly but conditionally in 3d, yin&yang, computer binary code, DNA 2 strand relativity resulting in 2,3 trans D resonance, also x^2 components into sinuses blah blah blah etc etc etc

2,3 trans D, common thing for humans ex. a map, a picture, but a TV streaming would be more like 2,3,4 trans D thingy

3rd dimension, you knomsayn: xyz complex, full triangular tansformations, objects, cause->effect->feedback (karma), chemical substrate->reaction->product scheme, crystals = so called matter, DNAs 3in1 codon formations,

trans 3,4 may be considered as physical carriers of ether information i.ex. tryptamines, telescopes, phones

4th dimension: little end, middle and connection to God, peace, calm, balance, yes - feelings... mhm, the well of Love, from this level all seems to come back - reverse (see menorah) but in a spiritual way, connection to all and the Source, edge of 3D perception, new ways of perception, alternative solutions

4,5 trans D lies within ion channels, the mirror of Alice is 3,4,5 trans D,

5th dimension: air of Tibet, space, magnetism, time-space transcendence, still possible to reach chemically by placing consciousness on the tryptamine bridges and "looking up", according to Śri Jukteśwara mankinds cycle beginning in 4100 a.d and will last 3600 years

5,6 trans D: you can consider as semi spiritually evolved humans, some Pleiadians and others

6th dimension, Archangels habitat, hydrogen electrons, voice of God, DNA light pattern storage, central universe

6,7 trans D: math. complex numbers, perpetuum mobile (it's possible but under one condition: the energy will last forever but the attracting machine in finite)

7th dimension: ThE SoUrCE, Gods home, marriage of real and paradox, I don't know what to say ..... SPIRITUAL EXTACYYYYY.... the ultimate love, consciousness attractor, most astounding light amplifying overwhelming ..... sooooo great.....

Yeah... or something like that ;D

I always say : don't treat all I say as a statement made of concrete, it's Linux : take it and improve it knomsayn ?

The guy from the morphogenetic theory and one Russian scientist (the name....arrg) also makes the 7 division, this is also very common in philosophical systems in the world.

Also I made a division of the wave particles ( into 12, an early beta for now), zero level research, color resonances (v. 0.01a) etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

So........ fill me in about your view of dimensions especially those above 7th



One more thing: i'll update this list of dimension associations from time to time, u also may add stg or ask or just comment or anything...

Update 1

Things that are named and can be pointed out are actually complexes of dimension relations

[ciboire237]

From the old system there is 7 dimensions and in the next system there is 12 dimensions.

Let's take a look at the piano. There are 7 notes. There is also 5 black notes, hidden. That makes the 12 energies total.

In the planetary alignment, there is Moon to Saturn, that makes a 7 planets, the 7 stars Jesus holds in his hands.

Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn

After Saturn there is Uranus, known before as Mazaloth, the Zodiacal signs. The twelves signes or 12 Apostles.

These are the 12 energies.

[Semjase]

ciboire237 said:

From the old system there is 7 dimensions and in the next system there is 12 dimensions.

Let's take a look at the piano. There are 7 notes. There is also 5 black notes, hidden. That makes the 12 energies total.

In the planetary alignment, there is Moon to Saturn, that makes a 7 planets, the 7 stars Jesus holds in his hands.

Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn

After Saturn there is Uranus, known before as Mazaloth, the Zodiacal signs. The twelves signes or 12 Apostles.

These are the 12 energies.

This is interesting. It is confirmed by my brothers conversations with Arwen in 2003, part of which I will quote here:

"Yes, God gave you the sign by awakening at 3:12, then when you massaged your foot and looked again after only a few seconds it was 3:24 ("Lost" time) and then you slept and dreamt to awaken at 3:36. These are symbolic occourances, but set in a series of 3 spatial "coincidences" so that you could know they were signs ~ confirming the evidence of the 3, Intelligence, Energy, and Information, within the framework of the 12 dimensions.

(Q: Ok, so theres the 7 spiritual dimensions, large that we can access, and then 5 beyond that, not just 9 or 11 total as Hawking and others describe, do I have this right?)

"Correct. The 5 dimensions within and beyond the 7, these are the "smaller, curled" dimensions, comparable to the 5 string theories which combined in their totality create the unknown or undiscovered theory along with supergravity, but the complete Unified Theory of the All would encompass the 7 and the 5 together in harmony, working in the order rather than separately distinct.

As also I told you last night about obsolete theories, some of which are only missing this one simple point. The 3, the 7, and 12 are revealed throughout your Bible, the 5 has been more hidden, therefore "occult" ~ not in the sense of negative anti-forces, but revealed in the pentacle; the 5 elements - often kept separate from the 3, 7, and 12, yet in truth a part of them; a representation of the totality.

The comparisons are as follows:

Intelligence: Consciousness, Soul, Father
Energy: Spirit/Ether(air), Spirit, Holy Spirit
Information: Matter/Substance, Body, Son"
April 1, 2003

[kaketsh]

Theory is a just theory, it's almost no different than a good night story. I know it's important to have a creative mind but if a theory is true one must experience it working. And thats what I think is very important - to have an ability to "see" the theory. We should be all able to experience all the dimensions, meet the truth face to face and be sure. To be sure of something that can't be (temporarily) proved and keep it that way is also tricky. There was a good saying I saw somewhere on the net: "the paradox is that the fools are too self confident while the wise are full of doubt" (it's conditional). It's a part of my lesson in the astral, while communicating with different beings or voices. The doubt is often present, more or less rational but it occurs in the transition between two realms. My lesson indicates that this doubt is resourceful for now, maybe even necessary, especially when one learns to differentiate between memories, channelings, inner voices and other surprises one can find in the head. I am sometimes very skeptical even to what I say, that's why I rarely do any claims. Mind must be very elastic when is in touch with the "knowledge from beyond", from being able to overthrow all the laws people were believing through hundreds of years to deeply and precisely analyzing the utmost stupid absurd ever heard or seen.

Thank you very much fellow minds for expanding, ascending, seeking and doing what you do. My brain feels really great to read and analyze all this, I can really feel my cortex evolving

[kaketsh]

ciboire237 said:

From the old system there is 7 dimensions and in the next system there is 12 dimensions.

Let's take a look at the piano. There are 7 notes. There is also 5 black notes, hidden. That makes the 12 energies total.

In the planetary alignment, there is Moon to Saturn, that makes a 7 planets, the 7 stars Jesus holds in his hands.

Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn

After Saturn there is Uranus, known before as Mazaloth, the Zodiacal signs. The twelves signes or 12 Apostles.

These are the 12 energies.

In "my system" these energies are described as trans-dimensions.

[ciboire237]

to Question: (Q: Ok, so theres the 7 spiritual dimensions, large that we can access, and then 5 beyond that, not just 9 or 11 total as Hawking and others describe, do I have this right?)

Kryon said there are 12 dimensions as in string theory there are 11. It does not mention 0. zero. Kryon adds that in angelic or divine point of view zero is neither nothing nor absolute. it is an integer.

in tarot of the hebrew letters, tav, the 22th is also named zero (the fool). be it the 22 or 12, in these patterns 22 and 12 are also equaled to zero.

so there are 11 dimensions and another one, god.

let's take a look at kabbalah tree of life.

1
2 3

4 5
6
7 8
9
10

that was the old pattern because of man trapped into creation, locked-in. if you add divinity and the earth...

0
1
2 3

4 5
6
7 8
9
10
11

or

12
1
2 3

4 5
6
7 8
9
10
11

12 being god and 11, the earth.
10 is the root chakra going into the earth. malkuth the kingdom.

that is why scientist only see 11 patterns, they lack of perception.

as for the 9 dimensions, I see them in the same pattern in kabbalah except the tenth one missing. that is all that i know. it is a completion of energy. 9 in hebrew is the shield before the sword (10). it is called the ouroboros, the circle. it is a cycle. of death? of completion...

as for the 7 versus 5... what i meant is there are 7 but in a broder spectrum or point of view it enlarge to 12. it is all the same point of view but being broader some kind of.

[kaketsh]

You know what would be cool ? If the symbolic meaning would be somehow eliminated from describing only our solar system and converted into a universal astrological system for other planets than Earth. By using that new expanded version we could locate other cosmic races by analyzing energy patterns needed for a life pattern to occur and even describe them by the resultant of the systems energy circulations ex. to know their behavior, karmic deeds, physical appearance and other things.

[ciboire237]

That's an interesting subject.

My DNA dimensional blueprint only works for an earth incarnation. It is the blueprint of Yeshua (Jesus).

On another planet that would be totally different but very interesting.

Searching...

[kaketsh]

Hello... I had to write this. Numbers spoke to me to reveal this pattern. No... Now it's okay it works only for this moment then it goes like domino. I would also change the year but I don't know why - on 2008. Day on 6th month on 4th.